996回 恒大、アメリカで破産申請取り下げ

髙橋洋一チャンネル
1 Apr 202408:41

Summary

TLDRIn this discussion, Takahashi Yoichi delves into the financial troubles of China Evergrande Group, highlighting its withdrawal of a bankruptcy filing in the US. He criticizes China's handling of international creditors and warns of the potential negative impacts on the Chinese economy. The conversation shifts to China's exclusion of American semiconductors from government procurement and the implications of this move. Takahashi also addresses the broader geopolitical tensions and technological challenges between China and the US, emphasizing the potential consequences for both economies and international markets.

Takeaways

  • 📚 The transcript discusses the withdrawal of a bankruptcy application under U.S. law by a Chinese conglomerate, suggesting that the company is using the American bankruptcy law as a strategic move to protect themselves and not to suffer losses at the hands of overseas investors.
  • 🏛 It implies that the Chinese company's domestic issues should be resolved within China's own bankruptcy laws instead of relying on foreign legal systems.
  • 📉 The conversation touches on the broader implications for the Chinese economy, suggesting that the inability to handle such legal matters could lead to a period of economic turbulence.
  • 💡 The speaker expresses skepticism about China's role in the international market, hinting that the country might struggle to maintain a strong position due to its approach to legal and economic issues.
  • 🛡️ There is mention of China potentially excluding American technology, such as from Intel, as a countermeasure to U.S. actions against Chinese companies, raising questions about China's technological capabilities and reliance on foreign tech.
  • 🤔 The transcript raises doubts about China's ability to produce its own high-quality technology, suggesting that their products might be copies of American technology with inferior performance.
  • 📱 The discussion includes TikTok as an example of U.S. concerns over Chinese technology, with the app facing opposition and potential bans in the U.S. due to security and privacy issues.
  • 🚫 The speaker predicts that TikTok could be banned for general use in the U.S., reflecting the growing tension between the two countries over technology and data security.
  • 💻 There is speculation about the impact on China if it were to exclude Intel from its government procurement PCs, suggesting that it might be difficult for China to find a suitable replacement.
  • 🛑 The transcript ends with an open invitation for viewers to ask questions and subscribe to the channel, indicating an interactive and ongoing discussion on these topics.

Q & A

  • What is the main issue discussed in the transcript regarding the Chinese conglomerate's bankruptcy in the United States?

    -The main issue discussed is the withdrawal of the bankruptcy application under Chapter 15 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code by a Chinese conglomerate. The speaker suggests that this might be a strategic move to avoid liabilities and protect assets from overseas investors.

  • What does the speaker imply about the use of U.S. bankruptcy law by the Chinese conglomerate?

    -The speaker implies that the use of U.S. bankruptcy law by the Chinese conglomerate might be a tactic to avoid being taken advantage of and to ensure that overseas investors do not suffer losses.

  • What is the speaker's view on the effectiveness of the bankruptcy system in China?

    -The speaker believes that the bankruptcy system in China is not effectively handling the situation, suggesting that it is not properly recognizing and dealing with the issues, which could lead to a severe economic downturn for China.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the Chinese government's actions regarding the bankruptcy issue?

    -The speaker criticizes the Chinese government's actions, suggesting that it is trying to push the issue onto overseas investors rather than addressing the problem domestically, which could lead to an unfair situation.

  • What does the transcript suggest about the impact of the bankruptcy issue on international markets?

    -The transcript suggests that the bankruptcy issue could negatively impact China's standing in international markets, as it may be seen as failing to adhere to international rules and fair practices.

  • What is the discussion about China's government procurement PCs and the exclusion of American reactionary forces?

    -The discussion seems to be about China potentially excluding certain American technologies, possibly due to political reasons, and the implications this might have on China's technological capabilities and international relations.

  • What is the speaker's view on China's technological capabilities in response to the exclusion of American products?

    -The speaker expresses skepticism about China's ability to produce equivalent technologies to replace the excluded American products, suggesting that China's technological advancements might be based on imitation and not entirely original.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the future of TikTok in the United States?

    -The speaker suggests that TikTok might face a ban in the United States due to concerns over data privacy and potential misuse for mass mobilization in times of crisis.

  • What is the implication of the speaker's comments on China's economic situation?

    -The speaker implies that China's economic situation could become increasingly difficult if the country continues to make decisions that isolate it from international markets and lead to a lack of trust in its economic practices.

  • What does the speaker believe about the influence of yes-men in a company's leadership?

    -The speaker believes that having yes-men in a company's leadership can lead to poor decision-making and the downfall of the company because these individuals may not provide critical feedback or challenge the status quo.

  • What is the speaker's perspective on China's international market position if it continues on its current path?

    -The speaker suggests that if China continues on its current path, it may find itself increasingly isolated in the international market, unable to compete effectively due to its actions and decisions.

Outlines

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📚 Legal and Economic Challenges in China

The first paragraph discusses the complexities surrounding China's legal and economic strategies. It mentions the withdrawal of a bankruptcy application under Article 15 in the United States by a large Chinese group, suggesting that this move might be part of a larger strategy to protect their assets and avoid liabilities to foreign investors. The speaker implies that the Chinese bankruptcy system is not adequately addressing these issues and that this could lead to a significant economic downturn. The paragraph also touches on the potential unfairness of pushing bankruptcy responsibilities onto foreign investors while not addressing domestic issues, reflecting on the limitations of China's communist system and its impact on international markets.

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🛡️ Tech Conflicts and TikTok Controversies

The second paragraph delves into the political and technological tensions between China and the United States. It references the exclusion of American entities by the Chinese government and retaliatory measures by the U.S., such as the potential banning of Chinese companies. The discussion includes the challenges faced by China in creating advanced technology, such as CPUs and GPUs, without relying on American designs. The paragraph also addresses the controversy surrounding TikTok and the concerns of U.S. lawmakers about data privacy and potential national security risks. The speaker speculates on the future of TikTok in the U.S. and the broader implications of these tech conflicts on China's international standing and economic development.

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Highlights

Channel China's large group has withdrawn the U.S. bankruptcy application under Section 15.

The reorganization is not going well due to the withdrawal of the bankruptcy application.

The court must be involved to resolve the situation properly.

The use of the U.S. bankruptcy law may be a strategy to avoid losses for overseas investors.

China's domestic bankruptcy system should be properly utilized to avoid unfair treatment of overseas reorganizers.

The lack of proper handling of bankruptcy can lead to a severe economic downturn in China.

The fundamental issues have not been resolved, leading to concerns about China's international market viability.

The withdrawal of the application suggests that overseas investors may be trying to hold China accountable.

Domestic asset concealment may be an issue, leading to demands for overseas investors to step in.

Efforts to negotiate and divide responsibilities between domestic and overseas parties are not progressing well.

The court's involvement may not be effective if the parties involved do not cooperate.

China's international market presence may be compromised due to these issues.

China's government is pushing for the exclusion of American entities like Intel from government procurement PCs.

There is uncertainty about China's ability to produce its own technology without relying on copied American technology.

The exclusion of American technology may lead to performance issues and a lack of alternatives.

China's economic challenges and the impact of these decisions on its international standing are discussed.

The potential for China to develop its own advanced technology is questioned due to a lack of transparency and information.

The implications of TikTok's situation in the U.S. and the political pressures it faces are mentioned.

The potential for TikTok to be banned in the U.S. due to security concerns is discussed.

China's economic future and its ability to develop without relying on copied technology is uncertain.

The challenges of China's economic development and the potential for it to become self-reliant are highlighted.

The transcript suggests that China's actions may lead to a decline in its international market presence.

The potential for China to face economic difficulties due to its reliance on copied technology is noted.

Transcripts

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高橋洋一

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チャンネル中国の広大集団がアメリカ破産

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法15条の申請を撤回というですね撤回し

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ちゃいましたはいチム再編が頓れてたから

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言ったでしょってだからうまくいかないん

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だよこういうのってでもだからね裁判所で

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ガンガンガンガン行かなきゃダメなんだよ

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もうこれはもう旗認定しちゃえばいいんだ

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けどねしないできないんだよねだからこれ

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は実はうん

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この番組ちょっと言った方かもしんない

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けどアメリカの破産法を使うってこと自体

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ね自分たがあのあまり取られないために

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自分たちが保線するて海外の投資家に損さ

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せるための戦略だからねこれはうまくいか

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ないんだよだからあの中国国内の方で

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きちんと破産法制で多認定をしないとだめ

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なんだなだだだってさ中国の国内の方守っ

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てね海外のね再建者だけ押し付けなそ

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うまくいくわけないじゃないだからこう

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いうの全然ダメなの典型なんだよねうん

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うんだからあのこういうな破綻法制で

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ちゃんとうんと処理ができないってこと

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自体がもうもう激震暗期を生んで中国経済

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ためにするって言ったでしょそれがまだ根

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の本質的なところが全然解決できてないっ

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てことですよ私なんかこういう記事見とね

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放題見ねやっぱりうまくいれがないだろう

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と思っちゃうんだよなこれ広代が自から

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撤回したってことそれだからあの海外のね

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投資家にね責任をせようと思ったらはい

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はいみに決ってじゃないふざけんなっお前

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ちょっと国内に資産隠してるからそっちの

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持ってこいっていうに決まるじゃない

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決まってんじゃないそだからもうあれだよ

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そういう話し合いがさうまくいかなくなる

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んだま後代もずるいんだよ国内の方の話を

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持ってきてね海外の方の人にね分け与えれ

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ばね話は進むんだけどこれでもなから裁判

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所がなんかが一生懸命やっても本人この

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後代自身がねもうその海外の話を全部

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押しつけるって話になった話まとまんない

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ようんこういうのがだからもうとんでも

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ない世界なんだよなるだからもうこういう

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の見てるともうやっぱりちょっと中国は

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国際マーケットで無理だなと思うよまそう

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ですよねうんやっぱりあの一点ルールの元

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にねえっと債務長官になったらね破綻処理

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をするとこれで内外の再建者わけ立てなく

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やるとかねこういうのが原則なきゃでき

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ないようんそれもそれなんだけどあれで

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中国政府の方がねこ海外の人に押し付け

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ちゃえっていう感じでねやってるんでしょ

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やってるからあのはい米国のあの破産法を

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申請するんであって国内の方のあのところ

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は全然何もしてないわけだそしたらそれは

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もうあのアンフェアって形になるにしか

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ないあれだよ答えはもう見え見えちゃって

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ますよそうですよだからそれはもう

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ちょっとだからこれがやっぱり中国のあの

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共産主義の限界であると私がずっと言っ

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てるんだけどその通りだよなこれはなはい

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はいあの中国ガでもう1個あの聞きたいん

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ですけどあの中国が政府調達PCから

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アメリカ反動隊を排除インテルなというの

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が出てアメリカの方がさあれだよな

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いろんな

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中国企業のやつを排除するからってその

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対抗措置なんだけどこれさ自分自分の

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ところでどんだけ作れるか知らないけど

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なんか技術でパクってやってるかもしん

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ないけどねそうなんですよねうんだから

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これはだからさ対抗措置するにあたってさ

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あのま中国もさメツがあるからさ自分で

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あれだよね作れるって言ってんだろうけど

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さ大体あれ中国の作ったあのなんてかな

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反動体のうんあのCPUとかそういうなね

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もう完全にあのアメリカのパクリだからさ

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とんでもない話をやってるよねでパクリで

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かつ性能そんな良くないからねこで全部

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できないんじゃないのうんだからGPU

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ってのがあってさこれが早く演算するのが

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あるんだけどnbdの話のやつを出さない

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とか言うとね対抗してやらないと中国が

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メツてんだけどさあれオタク大丈夫なのと

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なんで自分とかで作れないんじゃないのっ

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ていうことなんだけどメツが重視だ

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はい

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はってメカなんかません言っちゃっんじゃ

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ないのこんなことになったらアメリカあ

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どうぞどうぞっていいですよって感じに

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なるようんじゃ出さないよセンター技術

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出さないよって形になっちゃうよこれ自分

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の自分の首を閉めて感じだよ面白いんだよ

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これまアメリカの方のtiktokと時も

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この番組ちょっと言ったけどさあの

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tiktokのやがどうしてあんなにさ

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みんな反対があったかいうとはいはい実は

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あれだよね会員の時にさtiktokの

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ところでを使ってねこの本案にあのなんか

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このまま行くとねtiktokは国内で

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あのアメリカ国内で使えなくなるから

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アメリカの会員議員の人に圧力をかけ

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ましょうなんて言うんだもんだからそんな

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こと言ったらさ平常時にtiktok使っ

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て中国もそういうことやると思うじゃない

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そうですね分かってないんだよそれは

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tiktokでそのそういう議員向けにの

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逃亡するとそう議員一般の人に言っちゃっ

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たのそうそうだからそれでもう逆にあれだ

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よ議員の方がさあのなんかとんでもないて

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話になって今日和はもちろんこれは提案し

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てるからも反対なんだけど民主党の人だっ

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てみんな怒っちゃえこんなこと言たらふん

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じゃねえよって感じになるよここういうの

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でtiktok使うのかって感じになる

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じゃないもう本当になからさアメリカの

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懸念っていうかね情報トラルじゃだけじゃ

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なくてあいざという時にこれで大衆動員

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するかという風な形になるからさうん

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だからここではもうそれtiktokは

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もう一般にも禁止されちゃうよなそうです

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ねうんこれでtiktokのやっぱ率が

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ダンとっっちゃってるよね今ね中国っての

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案外分かってなくてやるんだなと思うけど

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ねうん全部集金辺でやることが今裏目に

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裏目に集金編て分かってないからさこう

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いうのってだからなんかあれなんじゃない

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の集金平に上がってんのだよねはいもうね

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あの今までの計画うまくいってますからで

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反動体なんかね世界最先端のやつをね

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いくらでもできますから言ってんじゃない

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のはい

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あっメカ言っっそうかじゃないのそうじゃ

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ないとなかなかこういう判断できにくいよ

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正しい情報がそもそも行ってないからうん

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行ってないからなるほどなるほどうんそれ

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であの中国のあのcpu見てとなんちゃっ

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てCPUだからさなんかあんなのでまとも

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にできるかななんて私なんか思うけどね

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うんそうなってくるどんどんダメになって

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どんどんダメになってくるよねそうすると

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あの中国経済なんかは先なかなか苦しい

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じゃない

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はいって民国ないは発展しにいだようん

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そういうののれなんじゃないかそういうの

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がもここ賢にいろんな事象で現れて私には

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見えるんですけどねうんあの経済やばいで

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すっていうのも多分報告は行かないんです

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よ大丈夫なんですて言ってそと裸様だから

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よしって言ってねもでも中国はねあの最強

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国国強兵みたいな感じでねやったそうまく

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いってる話ばっかりしてるはいアメリカ

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からもいらないですよってことになるん

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じゃないのやっぱ独裁国家ってそういう風

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になりがちなんそれはそうでしょ変なの

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あげたら首を飛ばされちゃうかもしんない

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んだったらみんないい話しかしないしね

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そううんそうするとね本当に間違った判断

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が起こりうるんだよね確かにイエスマン

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ばっかり側近に置いた会社の社長って大体

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ダメになってきますよ大体わかんないでね

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ダメになるからねうんで今のこの状態で

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あれだよねPCでアメリカのあのインテル

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外してたらきついと思うんだけどねうん

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そうですね中華製のPC中華性のあるよ

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あるんでそっくりだけど全然違うようん

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そうなんですねうんあんなのでなんかも

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ちょっと思うのかねよくわかんない私から

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思うとねこの下手に出てねもうちょっと力

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が強くなって中国が国際市場かなんかでね

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インテルをね任した時ぐらいまだ我慢し

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てると思う我慢するんだけどねもう我慢

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できなくなっちゃったです我慢できないっ

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ていうか知らないじゃん知らないも世界1

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になってまって言われてかもしれないそう

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言われてかもしれないねだからそうすると

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ねだて集金時代が多分コンピューターの

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このも知らないと思うからうんわかんない

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んじゃないかなはいそうですという気が

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なるほどあのねしますけどねこのね中国が

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ねアメリカの反動体排除したってのそんな

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気がしますけどまあのどこまで正しいか

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わかんないけど少なくとも反動体事情から

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見てインテルを排除して代替品が完全に

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あるかつそないですよないでしょう

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ね皆さんの質問をお待ちしております

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よかったらチャンネル登録をお願いいたし

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[音楽]

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ます

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